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Front Cross [video]

Everybody is doing Front Crosses, but have you ever wondered if you're doing them in the most efficient way in all situations? Discover an understanding of the Front Cross from a dog's perspective.

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Gisela Griesserlast year

last night I used the teaching phases 1-5 in my beginner class and it worked beautifully. these are all people and dogs new to agility and they just started training with me a few weeks ago! :)

Deborah Herron2 years ago

I was wondering if there were any videos to watch regarding the sequences 1 and 2 from the front cross video?

Niki Drage2 years ago

Hi Deborah, There isn't a video of one of us Coaches handling this course but you can see other OneMind Dogs pack members training it here: https://www.oneminddogs.com/forum/agility-training/free-e-book-front-cross-1-6.231/

Deborah Herron2 years ago

Thank you, watching them helps me a lot 🙂

Reegan2 years ago

Here is our first attempts with jumps We tried I hope we are the right track https://youtu.be/cLtXMXhwtWM

Reegan2 years ago

I tried to slow down the video so my turns can be seen toon

Reegan2 years ago

I'm finding this hard as I'm un coordinated. Do you always turn into your dog as such ? On Both sides

Niki Drage2 years ago

Hi Reegan, yes you do, turning your chest in to your dog cues him to decelerate and prepare to turn, it is a dog's natural reaction to your chest laser :) I recommend you go through the teaching stages with your dogs because it is easier to learn it that way, one step at a time, than to try and get the whole technique right straight away!

Niki Drage2 years ago

I also recommend you have a look at the "Taking your Front Crosses to the next level" online program: https://www.oneminddogs.com/course/Take-Your-Front-Cross-To-The-Next-Level/

Reegan2 years ago

Thankyou , you have been so good and helpful to us I appreciate it

Cornelia Kluck or Connie2 years ago

I am still trying to master the front X! It is such an important move!

Taryn Hodge3 years ago

I started this membership with the goal of getting in and looking at the 'fancy' stuff, however, after watching the front cross video I can see that I need to work on my basics. I'm not properly executing front crosses. Is the low, swooping motion that the handler gives on the take off side of the jump the referred to 'slow-down cue"? Is it signaling both collecting and turning? I've watched this video over and over and I'm not sure when to use this low sweeping motion. As you can tell, I was previously, running to the landing side of the jump and cueing turns!

Taryn Hodge3 years ago

Never mind, I've figured it out. I've had a lot of issues watching the videos. For some reason I was missing large portions of this video. Now that I watched the entire video I now see the answers to my questions.

Niki Drage3 years ago

Hi Taryn, funny you should mention that because Front Cross was actually on of the most important things i learned at my first OneMind Dogs seminar, even though I was expecting to learn "fancy handling" :D

Stacy Richards4 years ago

HI, I have discovered that when I use the "step into the dog and indicate the takeoff point" my dog will often turn in the opposite way because she thinks I am doing the beginning of a Rear Cross.... How can I stop this? Also have difficulty with doing a V-Set as she thinks I am asking her to t=go to the backside of the jump....I am feeling it is the pressure she is feeling on her line.

Jenni Leino3 years ago

This question has been answered in a Q&A article: https://www.oneminddogs.com/article/QA32-Step-Towards-Takeoff-Point/

Janita Leinonen5 years ago

Hi Carolyn! If I understood your question right, I keep my fingers like I have something on my hand everytime I want my dog to look my hand (lap turn, grab to weaves) otherwise it doesn't matter how you keep your fingers. If you want your dog to come close to you, it's important to keep your hand low, on the nose hight.

Janita Leinonen5 years ago

@Ellen Erickson Hi Ellen! If we don't want to come towards us, but to choose the next possible obstacle they see, if they turn they eyes. We just give a verbal attention cue (normally the dog's name). Depending on if the dog needs more, there can be deceleration, turning the body towards the dog or taking the opposite hand (like running on the dog's line).

Janita Leinonen5 years ago

@Claire Hi Claire! In front cross you always change the handling side. If you send to the backside jump with your right hand, you continue after the jump the dog on your left side. In twist you don't change your handling side. If you send to the backside jump with your right hand, you continue after the jump the dog still on your right side.

Claire5 years ago

As usual fantastic video thank you ! I bought your 'Agility handling technique 1' DVD. There is a version of the front cross (starting with back of jump) which looks a lot like the 'Twist' in your DVD. Could you tell me what is the difference between the two ? Thanks, Claire

Carolyn Parker5 years ago

When running a line should you always run with the inside arm flowing with the line with closed fist?, kinda like using an imaginary marker to draw the line for the dog? Or should you only using the closed fist for turning / decel / come to me cues?

Ellen Erickson5 years ago

Would really like to learn how to convey to the dog degree of the turn after the jump, like running row of straight jumps into Unobvious entry of curved tunnel if I can not be there to indicate front cross.

Noora5 years ago

Ana, thank you for your comment and question! There will be an answer as a Q&A on Coaches Corner on next Monday, so stay tuned! :) @Ana Zuluaga

Ana Zuluaga5 years ago

Hi OMD I love your videos, they are very helpfull for me and my dogs, front cross are must dificult turn for me, most of the time I'm late and moving back... And my timming with Astro my youngest Dog is really bad as You can see in this video, can You help me? http://youtu.be/gV7kl2sfQa0

Heidi Mendoza5 years ago

Yes it was the example at 8:00. Wow! It is so obvious now you have pointed it out! I can't believe I didn't see that Thanks :) @Janita Leinonen

Janita Leinonen5 years ago

@Heidi Mendoza Hi Heidi, yes, the dogs are reacting very subtle things, because they are masters of the body language. Just imagine when they communicate with each others with just little turning the other ear or just eyes turned away and the other dog can read all the signals. If you are talking in the video about the first mistake in 8:00, look only Mikko's legs. in mistake part every step is moving somewhere (the legs are apart from each other all the time). In the right part, the legs goes once together (two small steps, legs beside each other) and that is enough for most of the dogs for a rhythm change. You don't have to stop totally, if you change the frequency of your steps, the dogs can see that. They are amazing creatures :) But the stonger the dog wants to push forward, the stronger cuess it needs for turnings!

Heidi Mendoza5 years ago

Dear OMD, I am loving all your videos so far! They are fantastic and it is so easy to understand the handling technique. The only thing I can't quite see is the handling mistake in this video where the dog goes wide because the handler hasn't given a slow down cue. When I watch the video of the dog going wide the handler looks to be giving the same body language as when the dog runs the perfect line. In this case is it the vocal cue that the handler has left out? Or am I missing a subtle rhythm change that is missing when the dog goes wide? Thanks! Heidi

Lauri Jenkins5 years ago

This video is awesome! Now I can look at my run videos and see all the reasons why my dog turns wide. I was always just labeling it as "late" but now I have more tools to refine my fronts!

Janita Leinonen5 years ago

@Ellen Erickson Hi Ellen, we don't have "the rules" we use in every place for every dog. For example for 90 degree turning, depending on the dog and the handler's position, the proactive cue for coming turning can be: - v-set - rhythm change - reverse spin - false turn - or anything where the dog knows before the jump how tight he have to turn on the jump.

Ellen Erickson5 years ago

I have a question regarding turn precue using leg closest to the dog stepping closer to the take off point and arm. In those cases where there is 90 degree turn but no change of arms needed, or at pinwheel do you still use it as precue? Use something else?

stan peeters5 years ago

I turn my front Cross still too late in...I still have a lot to look ...;)

Stacy Richards5 years ago

This is just GREAT !! I can see now where I do not give the dog the correct info.

Janita Leinonen5 years ago

@Ellen Erickson January-February

Ellen Erickson5 years ago

@Janita Leinonen any additional info when those foundation videos will be coming?

Michelle Anthony5 years ago

@Janita Leinonen: Thank you! I wasn't sure if a verbal was being used for the rhythm change.

Janita Leinonen5 years ago

@Michelle Anthony Hi Michelle! Rhythm change is either stopping your own movement or decelerating one stride before the dog is on a take off place or for example in Tunnel Brake one meter before the dog enters the tunnel. More information about it (in good and bad) you can find in the methodologia video - in the movement part.

Michelle Anthony5 years ago

Where can I find information on the rhythm change? I can't really tell what is happening or what the rhythm change is in these videos.

Diana Chapman5 years ago

Thank you, Janita! I am looking forward to the foundation training videos.

Janita Leinonen5 years ago

@Diana Chapman Hi Diana, if the dog takes distraction from a toy in a hand, we wouldn't keep it in the hand. Then the assistant would throw a toy to the dog or we would leave it ready to the ground somewhere in the course. But the reason we like to keep a toy in a hand while running is that it is easy to reward the dog the right time. It always takes too much time to dig a toy from a pocket. After the dog has the higher obstacle focus than a handler focus, I usually run all my trainings with a toy in my hand, just to be ready to reward in any moment. When the foundation training videos comes out, you see that we actually teach our dogs to ignore a toy in our hand. But as I said, if the dog stares too much the toy, I would never keep it in my hand while running!

Diana Chapman5 years ago

I have a question. In training I have been taught to keep the toy out of sight and use it as a reward at the end of the session or for the correct execution of an obstacle, but usually the coach in the video has a toy in the hand at all times and seems to be using it as a lure or guide. Could you comment on that?

Diana Chapman5 years ago

Here are some things I have found helpful. I tied Christmas ribbons to my dogs' collars (on top) and I try to make sure I can see them at all times, so this way I know my face is pointing the right way. Also I marked on the ground where I should be doing the front cross. I used flour, and it brushes or washes away when you move the equipment (I am training outside).

Angi Buettner5 years ago

Awesome. Thank you! And this is something I can do on our level of agility, being rather new to it all. I love how you also show step by step what the human part of the team needs to do and learn. Showing element by element and then the lines, and the wrong and right way next to each other are great for visual learners and for people who need to understand why to do something in a particular way.

Niki Drage5 years ago

I love this video!!! It explains a lot of probs I have while performing front crosses (no slow down cue and no eye contact = very wide turns!!). I'll be setting up this sequence at home and practicing my front cross execution as soon as it cools down a little!!! Thanks guys :)

Jessica Kock5 years ago

Great video, love it when you have the wrong and the right way next to each other, it's a lot easier to compare them then.

Sabrina Rossi5 years ago

super!!

Kathy Zook Miller5 years ago

Thank you for the clear, precise tutorial on the front cross! I believe the OneMind teaching videos and challenges are already lifting my confidence and helping me improve the way I execute handling moves and teach skills to my dogs - yay! :-)